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Re: Bumming On Apple

Dorkus — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:43:54 -0000

This argument is one of the most juvenile of all time. You guys are arguing about who makes the best email / browser / music platform. How dated is that? I really don't care what platform I'm using. All I need to do is get to the Internet.

Have fun all you Apple fanatics. Spend your money like crazy at the Mac store so you can pretend you're cool just like the guy in the Mac ads. You're not cool. You're rubes. You've overpaid for an Internet appliance.

Great job.

By the way, my wheezing old XP machine costs next to nothing and I use it to make great videos and music and images. That's because the key ingredient is between my ears, not in the box next to me.

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miser — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:52:56 -0000

Who needs a phone when you can have iZimbra? With the iPodTouch by itself, and a nearby wi-fi signal, you'll have yourself a killer combo, enterprise groupware on the Mac, finally! And what a different "Mac" it is...

http://blog.01.com/?p=314

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jeremy — Sun, 09 Sep 2007 20:42:31 -0000

apple refused to sell me a notebook today with a student discount. they ran out of nano's and would not let me purchase a notebook by itself with the discount. i have to wait until they get more. thats bad business practice... i dont even want the nano.

Re: Bumming On Apple

fredwilson — Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:48:02 -0000

i meant that the "i love apple" phase of my life is over.

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loupaglia — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:06:08 -0000

Fred, why not use Parallels? Does your Exchange not even work with that? Right now, at Dow Jones which has a pretty locked down network allows me to use email in Outlook in XP in Parallels. I agree, that using Mac Mail with Exchange isn't viable. As long as you don't mind using XP virtually, you can happily use email effectively while sitting nicely on your Mac Book.

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Me — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:10:02 -0000

Glad to hear it! Apple does not need your business or attitude. Enjoy your dell!
And for future reference, everything goes down in price and there is always something cheaper and better on the horizon, you wanna be an early adopter, then suck it up.

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JT — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:50:52 -0000

Saying "I am so over Apple, Steve Jobs, and my MacBook" kinda makes it look like you are.

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fredwilson — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:30:31 -0000

i didn't buy an iPhone, i was given one as a gift and i haven't even opened it yet. no desire to use it whatsoever.

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brian — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:12:32 -0000

boo hoo. early adopters always pay a higher price. ESPECIALLY with cell phones. you wanted the neato toy before everyone else, and then got bummed when johnny comelately gets it better than you. perhaps you should think your impulse purchases through next time

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AndyBeard — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:05:56 -0000

From what I have read, you can just claim the $200 difference back from many credit card companies.
I am not sure how that affects the agreements with the credit card companies, but could quite possibly hit both AT&T and Apple financially unless it is some kind of insurance that the credit card companies are willing to foot the bill for completely.

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Sean McDonald — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:45:45 -0000

yeah... but microsoft is still putting out cumbersome, less enjoyable products... so.....

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Mike Champion — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:44:37 -0000

And you lose any business plan rate decrease if you had one like I did with AT&T before getting an iPhone.

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Nathan Bowers — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:33:44 -0000

Seriously, you'd buy a separate computer for email because Exchange stinks? Why not just run Parallels?

How much Outlook storage are you allowed? In most places it's like 50Mb. That's the worst thing about Exchange. Instead of scaling, it creates untold man hours of wasted labor and cognitive overhead in every company that uses it, since everyone from copy clerks to venture capitalists has to think about and manage their email storage.

Also, Exchange is only surpassed in suckitude by Lotus Notes. I can always tell when someone comes from a backward company when they say they'll send a "note" instead of an "email".

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Greg Langer — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:59:02 -0000

i've been an apple customer for over 20 yrs. No other company, period, comes close to them, I have always had windows and work and it totally sucks. apple's move to lower the price of the iphone is brilliant (I own most of my shares at about $9 - it's been a long wait). while you complain about apple, what has microsoft ever done for you? what company offers a $100 credit when they cut prices? Jobs' original comment was, technically, absolutely correct - early adopters buy based on being the 1st, not on price. He made the correct PR and business decision immediately. Apple products are infinitely superior to anything else out there.

enjoy your dell, but when you're working in windows and have to deal with microsoft, think of me and all other happy apple folks who focus more on what's wonderful than what isn't exactly what we may desire at a particular time, sorry, man, but you're really missing the forest for the trees. speaking of trees, hope central park is looking beautiful. I'm an "ex"- NY'er who will always remain one.

maybe you can sell the dell now and cut your losses! you'll thank me for it later!

Greg

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Gerald Buckley — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:21:42 -0000

Ah, Mr. Wilson... we've apparently been loving on the same girl! All of us knew what we were getting when the affair began. Sorry you don't like the girl so much anymore. Plenty of us think otherwise... So, it seems, if Apple put out just a little bit more or what you're after... she's good again?

As for RIMM... enjoy your hottie!

As for Dell/Windows... ewwww! I can only imagine the STDs you'll get from that chick! Email's just not worth it. ;)

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Mo — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:00:58 -0000

Keep doing what you are doing, it's original and addictive for me the reader.

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Mo — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 10:59:11 -0000

Fred you have to agree that it won't be too hard to roll out a subscription service if some enterprising folks wanted to do so now that iPod is Wi-Fi enabled. I think the hard obstacle to jump is hardware, now that you have a hardware platform, you can build the services(software) around it.

Also, let's keep one more thing in mind, their is no true alternative to iPod in the market, until one emerges we will have to build our services around the most popular model that is out there to gain the most bang for the development buck. Unless your investors aren't looking for that sort of thing and want to break new ground on a brand new hardware platform with a minuscule user base.

With all this said, the killer service for me is something better than the Verizon data network, something even faster and ubiquitous. I want to stream my own music channel* when I am in the car, you know a lot of people still drive cars.

*Well, not quite my own music channel, I want to stream something like my neighborhood radio in last.fm, I want to know what Fred is listening to nowadays without having to go and look for the music, download it and transfer it to my iPod.

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Mike — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 08:12:56 -0000

Shouldn't you be mad at microsoft for making exchange not work well with Apple?

If you were really going to be serious about your quest to dump microsoft you would have dumped that outrageously expensive email solution Exchange for either something web based like Google's offerings or if you don't want your email on other people's servers you could use lots of free linux email server solutions.

It's funny that your blaming Apple for microsoft's infamous tactic of making competitors software not work well with them (cough netscape, cough java back in the day).

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RacerRick — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 07:52:44 -0000

I am speechless.

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Bruce Barber — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:19:19 -0000

Fred,

It occurs to me that, as a VC, it must be interesing to watch the steps (and missteps) of a company that inspires this kind of passion.

Re: Bumming On Apple

fredwilson — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:51:17 -0000

sorry hans, i don't plan on stopping using it.

just adding a windows machine to the mix

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fredwilson — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:50:29 -0000

it is usually mutual when things don't work out, isn' it?

but i don't plan to get off of my Macbook

i just have to get some email done at work and the macbook (and the iphone) won't work with exchange as hard as i try to make them do that

fred

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fredwilson — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:48:59 -0000

that's not exactly what i said.

i said i have to get a windows machine for my office.

i will certainly keep using my macbook for most things

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fredwilson — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:47:44 -0000

i didn't say i was giving up my macbook, i just said i have to get a windows machine for my office so i can get some email done

Re: Bumming On Apple

Orian Marx — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:55:59 -0000

To me the iPhone was incredibly overpriced at release and as far as I can tell everyone else was saying the same thing. Yet plenty of people made the decision to spend the money anyway. If it was worth it to them at the time, then they shouldn't be bitching about it now. I would imagine plenty of people who are upset about this are upset not because they overpaid but because their status symbol just became a lot more accessible.