DISQUS

A VC: delicious search

  • Scott Yates · 1 year ago
    Interesting that Ask.com is sucking so bad in spite of (because of?) spending all that money on advertising. I wonder if they'll have a spot in the Super Bowl.
  • mike hoover · 1 year ago
    yes, delicious is a full blown recommendation system. the most valuable out there, in my opinion. i wrote about it here:

    http://www.michaelhoover.org/mike/2007/08/delic...
  • zyzhu · 1 year ago
    This is very interesting. I am curious where you get the data.
  • Kamlesh P. · 1 year ago
    Long time reader, but first post. The one thing that I don't think you have mentioned is that from your chart, Google Search (both Web and Image) account for more hits than the other searches put together. In light of that fact, does it matter whether Delicious would be better off separately or being part of Yahoo!?
  • fredwilson · 1 year ago
    I think its clear, in hindsight, that delicious would have been better off as an independent company

    Fred
  • John John · 1 year ago
    Delicious has so much potential to be a major player in search (Mahalo on steroids?). They're let down by their poor interface and the lack of attention paid to their interface. Yet another yahoo acquisition left twisting in the wind....
  • fredwilson · 1 year ago
    Agreed
  • scottfromshanghai · 1 year ago
    Very interesting although it clearly shows Google demolishes everyone (even if you add yahoo, Microsoft and del.icio.us!). Huge week on week growth at delicious (+791%) did anything specific happen to cause such a spike?
  • ifyoumakeit · 1 year ago
    While it's great that you got such traffic from Delicious (I can only dream), it seems premature to claim that the service is now a major traffic driver. If this is indeed week-over-week data, then last week you only saw 270 referrals, which places it below Microsoft, Ask and AOL. Can you share more details?
  • JT · 1 year ago
    This is a little off topic, but have you guys seen this new search engine ManagedQ? I read about it on AltSearchEngines a week ago, and it really kicks ass. There's probably a bit too young to contribute much traffic to the above list, but unlike Powerset, Hakia and the other new guys they have a compelling pruduct you can try right now. I'd recommend taking a look.
  • bonforte · 1 year ago
    There is more. If you ever search something you car about (I think of it as stuff about which I have some passion), you will most likely find better results on Delicious search than you will on Google or Y! (or any of the other smaller search engines). Delicious results are fresher, and more interesting. Take "Amazon S3" as a search. Google and Yahoo! treat it as an "informational" or "navigational" query. The top 10 results are dominated by aws.amazon.com/s3 results and one from Wikipedia. On delicious, however, you get results that are all about what you can do with Amazon S3, such as automated backup, top 10 hacks, image hosting, media file hosting, etc. Very cool.

    Google and Yahoo! treat you like a tourist, helping to point you to a place. Delicious, and its passionate users, direct you to places that help you do something meaningful. Something you care about.

    Now repeat this comparison with DIY home repair, music, travel, cars, computers, gadgets, games, knitting, movies, etc, etc. In all these cases Delicious returns more meaningful results.

    Joshua S and the team at Yahoo! get this, but too few others do. For Delicious to become massively meaningful, it does not need to convince tens of millions of new people to use it as a bookmark service. It instead needs to keep its current users engaged and to expose its search results (directly or through Yahoo! Search) to the rest of the world. I think what mainstream users would find is that Yahoo! and Google search have been holding out on them; cheating them of the good stuff.

    When Google first came around, we were so impressed it could help us find things on the internet (navigational searches), we didn't move much beyond that to ask more of our search engine. And they haven't progressed much further as a result. Google and Yahoo! both do equally as good a job IMO at helping me find a site, but Delicious is the only reliable place I have found that helps me get smarter or find truly amazing content on the net. And for that they are massively undervalued at Yahoo! and on the net.

    Here is to hoping Yahoo! figures out how to better leverage Delicious without killing it in the process. They have done an admirable job in not killing Flickr, and lets see if they can do the same for Delicious. In the meantime, kudos to Joshua and the Delicious team for making such a great service.

    I should disclose that I am currently an employee of Yahoo! and that I worked with the Delicious team briefly...long enough to become a huge fan :)
  • fredwilson · 1 year ago
    Bonforte

    Me too. Joshua is a genius

    Fred
  • pwb · 1 year ago
    So was Delicious below Ask.com the month before?
  • fredwilson · 1 year ago
    Can't run that query
  • Maggy Young · 1 year ago
    Agree with Bonforte. Hit nail on head here. Delicious can beat Google when you are looking for advice with something. You will get more directly useful sites, not just a stream of links to the topic. You get the bookmarked sites & cut out the dross.
  • 50m · 1 year ago
    People save their bookmarks online (in sites like del.icio.us) and post links to their favorite sites (in sites like digg and reddit). In a way, people that use these sites act as smart agents and add to these big databases the most liked sites on the web. No company could compete with the man hours people put in saving and tagging their bookmarks. No algorithm could calculate site quality better than humans.
    http://www.50matches.com is in this search evolution junction. We crawl only sites that were bookmarked , "dugg" or "reddit'ed" by combining human indexing with machine indexing.
    Check us out :)
  • JaeSung Ro · 1 year ago
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    Best Regards,
    JaeSung Ro | Founder | zSoup