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*** now editing *** wonder if the edits go to the moderator's email. Fred?
Scroll box in edit mode makes it a bit weird. (can only see 4 lines of my comment right now)
One thing though... whitespaces are a bit big around comment text for me. A bit of an 'empty' feel.
Just to clarify, this part isn't wholly Disqus V3. This is a new (optional) theme as part of the new release. Yep, you can choose whether to enable this or not.
Some of the changes are cosmetic, but most are not. A few of the major features built into this theme is not enabled yet, but we're mostly doing a live test on this blog -- especially since we love hearing the nice and not-as-nice things the readers of avc.com have to say... :)
So please test and try to break as much as you can.
Availability is still slated for next week.
I do like the in-reply-to-X addition as sometimes long response threads become annoying to find the source on.
Note: the "edit" button is a little weird. It has 2 scrolling textboxes (ie, 2 vertical scroll bars) one inside the other.
On a side note, if dev's are listening I'd like the ability to edit posts after they've been replied to. Sometimes you want to post something for a limited amount of time... like say an email addr or sensitive information you don't want up forever. The people it's for post to say they got it and boom, you're stuck unless you can get a moderator. I've had several things I would've liked to post but didn't because I had no guaranteed way to remove them later.
Maybe make the edit after a reply thing an option for the blog host to enable/disable?
As for the reasoning behind the move, we're experimenting with this philosophy: people read from left to right, and subsequently end up on the right-hand corner when they finish reading and are ready for a reply. And if you didn't read the comment in the first place, why reply?
Nothing is set in stone (I like saying that) and we're going to see how it plays out.
You can set the options so that Guest commenting is disabled, however the fields still do show up. Once the user submits his comment, he is required to finish registration before the post is completed. We've found that this increased the number of people willing to comment many, many times.
Simply put, a comment form hidden behind a "You must register" wall is scary to everyone.
That's one of the disabled parts. :)
Otherwise the fields are confusing and a bit deceptive because AFTER a person filled out the fields there is a "trap" in the next step. I find this a bit dishonest and not a good treatment of my users really.
Anyway, a registration is a barrier, anyway you put it, but if a site owner already decided to have no anonymous comments, etc. he understands that there is barrier but still considers the benefits, etc.
Am I the only user who consistently imagines merging his favorite utility features into one product. Feature bloat..
Clearly not the answer.
I do prefer disqus for my blog at the moment but I'm tempted by echo.
I'd like conversations to be unbiased based on their source, and connected to wherever the commenter wishes to put them. 140byte messages can be just as valuable as longer formats and should be able to thread in and out seamlessly with other comment sources.
Looking at the new style... its much more cleaner! I like it...
Disqus 3 as I write... looks like a long awaited update!
http://www.rateitall.com/wt-email-reviews-faq.aspx
For just a couple of people, disqus sure gets a lot sh*t done.
But am I missing something: where's the "tweet this comment" option?
One example: Jeff Master's tropical/hurricane blog at wunderground.com (which is required reading for all of us Floridians) sometimes has hundreds of comments, and is sometimes just impossible to parse... could Disqus enable some sanity to be created there?
And it's like you're reading my mind! Hang on tight, but I will say it's not going to make this next release.
In real life, words don't just speak for themselves, the speakers reputation matters. Those aren't built out of air, but out of real connections in a credibility economy. Disqus lets someone unify their identity across multiple domains, reputation seems like a natural extension.
Those sorts of issues affect the transference issues. How do you keep the good aspects, without letting the negative pull it aside. (Ie my likes must mean something, I'd like to redeem them, but I don't want to destroy them in a stupid move)
If I was personally going to implement this, I'd try to accumulate points by blog, as they are really not meaningful in a transferrable way.
The way I see points is as an indication of:
a) history length of the user at the blog
b) a semi-quality rating to see if the user has recognition/cred with the local blog audience
Sort of a was this acct created yesterday or is it established here is what I use it to check. Accumulating points across sites actually makes that harder to tell within the context of a specific blog.
Global rankings don't really mean anything, as it is just a marker of spammers and people would do silly things like register bots to follow them around and post up all their spam. At a blog I frequent (slopeofhope) we once had a vicious spammer who among other things downrated every post for a few months or so. They can do that in an upward direction too. If you ranked users globally somebody would show up with a billion points in a month or two.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKKj35xhkNE
They do it for me at alleyinsider when they pick up my posts
But its a hack. Probably not something you want to deal with
1st edit after 1st create of the comment - good to see edit is still there. thought for a moment it was gone, as didn't see the page refresh with my entered comment for a bit.
Why the 2 scroll bars to the right of the edit comment textbox? Could things not be managed with one only? Maybe a good reason, just wondering.
2nd edit. Edit box is still there on my comment, allowing me to edit it, even after 15 minutes. Interesting. Thought last time I used it (on another Fred post) that it was only for 5 mins. Now longer / unlimited?
More specifically--as will be more prevalent in V3--"Disqus Comments" and "Disqus Profile" are specifically tailored and have been 'super-charged' for their end users (site managers and commenters, respectively). e.g. Within the former, highly robust, efficient moderation tools are a major focus, and with the latter, you'll see a much more unified way for users to integrate seamlessly with their various social platforms and commenting identities, and significantly greater control of one's own comments across the web.
Also, the visuals that show the source of the post (twitter, etc.) are small and hard to distinguish. If you're going to separate by source anyway, you might think about a small heading at the beginning of each source. Not sure yet how I feel about separating by source. If it were easy enough to visually distinguish between sources (like a different color), I might prefer to keep all sources "in line" and just visually skip a source I'm not interested in (i.e. twitter retweets).
But overall, I think the new look is great. Can't wait for the final version.
It is officially driving me crazy.
Stop telling me how many people like me when I open up a form, I'm getting vain and curious who those people are, and I think it is psychologically bad for me. I don't want to know how many comments I have posted. I just want to go on and see that I have commented. It's making me nervous that perhaps I am not a good commentator. (Not that I know what makes for a good commentator)
Stop making me nervous please...
Thanks so much
Shana