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Re: Geographic Balancing

Ashish Singal — Sat, 10 May 2008 12:08:41 -0000

I think this is a great post and a great discussion. I feel that people who recognize the fact that globalization is inevitable and irreversible will be able to appreciate and understand much more clearly current events and future trends. Hopefully, like-minded people will also be our decision makers ;).

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fredwilson — Sat, 10 May 2008 06:04:08 -0000

it's inevitable. money flows to entrepreneurs wherever they are

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gregory — Sat, 10 May 2008 00:39:01 -0000

loss, or certainly the redefinition, of britishness is the obvious one .... the global flow is the transformation of identity, who you think you are... this is painful for many cultures, religions, regions .... and unfortunately what is replacing it is often far less human, loving, caring, coordinated with seasons and geography than what once was .... but minds free of space and time constraints can fly in ways unimaginable up til now ....

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gregory — Sat, 10 May 2008 00:33:05 -0000

i guarantee you will have many moments where you cannot tell what country you are in

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gregory — Sat, 10 May 2008 00:31:31 -0000

to be mourned about, the death of the exotic

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coldspring — Fri, 09 May 2008 23:43:33 -0000

Back in my ops days at Dell ('97 - '01) we saw parity models that showed China/India @ cost parity in 2050 that were done in '98, by late '01 the models showed 2035 and the latest that I reviewed a year ago estimate 2018 - 2020. It is coming faster than we think.

Headed to HK this coming week. Will look to see if they have discovered HoHos, Chia Pets and bad country music...that'll be a sure sign.

Re: Geographic Balancing

Karen E — Fri, 09 May 2008 23:00:24 -0000

I manage the marketing efforts at a very small but global architecture firm. I can't even believe how quickly our global portfolio has grown. In 9 months it's gone from 25% of our work to 40 or 50%. We have been pulled into huge-scale urban planning projects all over the world that are the stuff of fairly tales. We're turning away work because we can't hire quickly enough nor even deal with working in so many countries.

Re: Geographic Balancing

vruz — Fri, 09 May 2008 21:23:50 -0000

Latin America is a more difficult game to tackle, it will take at least 15 years of intensive education programmes to get started producing the brains we're needing to achieve China levels.

As reported by The Economist: (May 3 issue)
http://vruz.tumblr.com/post...

From this graph we can tell Latin American people seem to have enough capital to get started, they work a lot, but they don't know how to allocate capital and labour.

The OLPC plan being deployed right now in (at least) Brazil and Uruguay is a good indication this may have started to happen already, but 25 years may be a bit too optimistic for these countries.

Fresh minds, new people, new ideas, a lot of new brains thinking differently.

I am hopeful indeed.

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logistyka — Fri, 09 May 2008 18:31:34 -0000

thank you, it is very intersting post !

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Don Jones — Fri, 09 May 2008 17:41:59 -0000

Fred,

What do you think of VC investment moving overseas:

http://venturebeat.com/2008...

"VC investment continues to move overseas — Limited partners say they’re still wrestling with the implications of more and more venture capital activity moving abroad. The comments came during the LP panel at the recent meeting of the National Venture Capital Association. VentureBeat didn’t make it to that panel, but VentureWire was there to note some of the most interesting facts and figures. There’s definitely a lot of activity — almost 20 percent of domestic funds were deployed outside the United States in 2007, compared with 7 percent in 1998, according to Bob French of Adams Street Partners. And David York of Paul Capital predicted that within the next decade, as much as 50 percent of global venture capital activity will take place outside the United States."

Re: Geographic Balancing

mahmoud — Fri, 09 May 2008 16:09:26 -0000

I second the notion that it will be a quarter of a century rather than half a century for the balancing of wealth to occur. I believe we will be seeing a hockey stick growth curve in many of these countries if and only if there is a change in their governments' economic and trade policies. With the globalization of markets and the growth of internet adoption in these countries comes an increased level of transparency that is currently fueling the pressure for economic reform. India is a prime example of how under new government came a new economic policies that motivated and facilitated foreign investment. The talent was there just like many other countries, but it was hidden and unutilized on a global scale.

UAE is another prime example. It is now a hub for any multinational corporation wishing to penetrate the middle east market because the government created a free trade zone in Dubai. Now Dubai houses the greatest number of cranes in any city in the world. Infrastructure is getting revamped to address the high scalability needs of the city and the region.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the lid to get blown off in each country in order to give way for economic reform and how fast of a ripple effect will that have on other countries? Once that lid is blown off, I think we will see potential for other 'Indias' to emerge.

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fredwilson — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:57:21 -0000

jackson, you are reading the history of great britain right now. what are some of the "painful" moments that britain went through that we may be headed for?

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rodmitch — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:33:13 -0000

This can only be true if America decelerates or stagnates, no? It may take 50 years (or 25) for these countries to get to where America is now but where will it be then?

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CoryS — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:16:07 -0000

Fred - I read the quote and sent it to a number of business leaders at my company as well. It embodies what our company is planning for which is a non-US centric world where demand is gaining traction in hard asset growth including infrastructure, housing and transportation (base of the pyramid kind of stuff).

Nice to see it struck you as well. Soon enough, you'll want to be more geographically balanced with your own personal wealth, too.

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jackson — Fri, 09 May 2008 15:02:42 -0000

Hopefully our transition from Imperial Power to average Joe won't be as painful as that of Britain , France, or Rome.....

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Merredith — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:52:50 -0000

I agree that geographic balancing is not a zero sum game; that it may even be a Nash equilibrium. What I find interesting in the balancing of wealth, rights, and culture -- and as Rob points out so aptly, optimism -- is responsibility. What financial and cultural rules do we all play by - the ones we used, or the ones we need now?

Re: Geographic Balancing

fredwilson — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:04:47 -0000

i am so with you on this.

that's why i always say the line about the last 50 yrs and the next 50 yrs. it's not about America declining in absolute terms (although that could happen). it's certainly about America declining in relative terms but that means others are rising and that's a great thing.

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aweissman — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:02:56 -0000

I wrote about it a little here too -- my blog is mucked up now - but some more ideas here http://www.aweissman.com/

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fredwilson — Fri, 09 May 2008 14:00:00 -0000

i don't think i have a catbird seat. but i do try to see what's really going on and this blog and particularly the readers who comment are the best tool i've got to do that

Re: Geographic Balancing

fredwilson — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:58:34 -0000

i am not sure Obama is a protectionist inside. but he has clearly cloaked himself in that position and it won't be easy to take off that cloak

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fredwilson — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:56:55 -0000

nice quote from Zakaria. i reblogged it at fredwilson.vc

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markslater — Fri, 09 May 2008 13:19:23 -0000

Dubai? or UAE?

5 countries and one city? American by chance?

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wisaac — Fri, 09 May 2008 12:58:50 -0000

I disagree with notion of flatness being the great equalizer of the global society. We champion the barrier of international barriers, yet the concentration of wealth at its highest point. Even in the BRIC nations, while the standards of living are increasing, Moscow has more billionaires then NYC. How is that flat or decentralized?

The world may not be a zero-sum game, but its rather a Nash equilibrium. Every nation has its place where they are sufficiently satisfied. Yet we have a new class of nations (emerging nations) wanting a bigger share. How and where do they fit into the global math?

Re: Geographic Balancing

Rob Long — Fri, 09 May 2008 12:49:09 -0000

Growth is good. Growth is what ends famines, builds schools, increases life expectancies, and powers a rise of living standards.

Mostly. But growth without laws and consistent property rights sometimes end up creating disasters. The BRIC economies are rapidly diverging -- Russia has potential and resources, but is crippled by a corrupt oligarchy at the top; China keeps resisting capitalism: its big banks and enterprises are government run and regulated; Brazil, on the other hand, is quickly adapting to the global capital market; and India, wow, look out. India is going to be an amazing story: one billion people lifted out of the most depressing and crushing poverty in the next 50 or so years.

Fareed Zakaria is an old friend of mine -- I met him freshman year in college -- and he's always been a sharp observer of the role of America in the world. His new book is great, but I think it's being mis-interpreted as a "declinist" tract, about an America in decline. It really isn't; it's about the rest of the world (well, really, parts of the rest of the world; he's optimistic about all of the BRIC economies; I'd pick only the two with consistent property rights law) and how the rising global growth means we'll have to rethink our ideas about American-ness, invent new businesses and products to sell to a richer world, and invest more in education and technology.

Rethink, invent, invest -- these are good challenges to have. Optimism is the great American export. Now, finally, in some unlikely places, we've got some real buyers.

Re: Geographic Balancing

mrclark411 — Fri, 09 May 2008 12:17:20 -0000

Or, scratch Britain - put EU in its place.