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Re: Making Twitter Smarter

bd808 — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:05:12 -0000

Someone did. It's called greasemonkey and variants are available for mozilla, opera, safari, konqueror, IE and chrome.

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ppearlman — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:20:31 -0000

great idea bertil

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howardlindzon — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:38:44 -0000

such a geek dave. you should start an incubator

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Bertil — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:29:45 -0000

I couldn't find any information about non-US based stocks: are they used on Twitter, managed by StockTwits; are there possible homonymy? I don't thing it's a detail: they have been influenced recently, and you might want to invest and find actionnable conversation with people knowledgeable about foreign car-makers, luxury-centered companies, alcohol sellers.

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Vaibhav Domkundwar — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:11:29 -0000

This is great and I am a big believer of Twitter-based applications or lets say communities which help groups to come together to discuss certain topic areas and find the latest updates about those topics. But the complete dependence on twitter (which is the only one with critical mass right now) makes me worry. Also I think FF plugins are a tough sell - even the savvy users don't end up doing that. I am surprised that you use FF plugins considering that you don't use RSS readers.

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John Sjölander — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:17:09 -0000

I had a thought that would help the accuracy of such semantics on the way. Imagine a delicious for twitter, where you can tag authors, single tweets or hashtags with relevant information. using info from such a service, if it would gain momentum, would clearly further those 99% to a perfect 100%.

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fredwilson — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:48:28 -0000

I am now Scott

Adding it to FF now

Thanks for the tip!

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rafer — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:42:44 -0000

don't tell me that you aren't familiar with PowerTwitter, from the 30Boxes gang!!
https://addons.mozilla.org/...

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fredwilson — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:42:31 -0000

That's interesting

I need to noodle on that

Some good ideas in there

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Mack Male — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:15:30 -0000

So kind of like what Twitter Search already does with usernames (anywhere in the tweet) and hashtags. Why Twitter and Twitter Search aren't more in-line with one another continues to boggle my mind.

Re: Making Twitter Smarter

hypermark — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:38:21 -0000

For what it’s worth, here is an attempt to articulate a ’structured’ tweet service based on consumer, small biz, fred wilson and procter & gamble segmented universe.

The idea is a tiered model whereby 'basic' twitter remains free but premium structured service offered for online brand builders and commercial businesses.

Twitter-nomics: Envisioning Structured Tweets
http://thenetworkgarden.com...

Check it out if interested.

Mark

Re: Making Twitter Smarter

John Sjölander — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:30:16 -0000

I really agree, but one serios question is the semantic bias. I want to know that my links point to relevant things. Given so little information in each tweet it may be really really hard to pinpoint that. Of course, one would analyze my previous posts, people I post with and links I post, in conjunction with other knowledge about me to support that, but I believe that the semweb still has some ways to go before relevancy is 100%. 99% just isn't good enough for me.

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DavidCohen — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:27:10 -0000

Someone should build a meta-plugin. In other words, a single plug in that any company can build a web-based adapter for.

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howard lindzon — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:09:01 -0000

exactly dude. thx

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agbiotec — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:08:36 -0000

The semantic web emerging via harnessing some collective intelligence ? Yes, I think this is the way to go....

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Edwin Khodabakchian — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:54:22 -0000

Interesting timing: This is something feedly has been working on for a little bit of time and will preview next week. Happy thanksgiving.

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Alfred — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:54:17 -0000

Twitter's supposedly to be announced business model next year could be keyword hotlinks. Keyword hotlinks have been a key component for Fatwallet forum. keywords like dell are hotlinked to dell ( for a price), so in way, Twitter could do well using that model too.

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Fraser — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:39:26 -0000

Soren and the StockTwits team are killing it. Great release. I was impressed with how rapidly they integrated AB Meta into their service as well.

What's cool about this is that stock fans can click through from twitter directly to StockTwits and the Glue bar will appear connecting them to friends who have also interacted with the stock.

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Joe Lazarus — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 12:24:52 -0000

I like the server-side extension concept, particularly for enriching simple links that people include in their posts (ex. there could be an extension that converts any URL that points to YouTube into an inline, embeded video in my Twitter timeline).

I imagine the symbol based ones (ex. $ for stocks, # for tags, etc) have limited potential in that there are only so many uses that a) fit in 140 characters, b) everyone can agree on, and c) are intuitive and easy to remember. Stocks are a good fit in that they are short character strings and you don't need to be a Twitter geek to recognize GOOG as the symbol for Google. If there were too many of those special characters, you would have to learn a whole new language just to update your status correctly. It's got to be pretty confusing even today for a new user to learn that @ = reply, $ = stock, # = tag, OH = overheard, RT = retweet, and so on.

Interestingly, @ replies started out as a hack that Twitter eventually implemented on the sever end, along with hyperlinks to the person being replied to and, more recently, full discussion threads.

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BillSeitz — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:51:47 -0000

Twitter could own this by controlling the use of prefix characters, just like @ and #.

They could auction or give away. (would need some way to define basis for clawing back)

Re: Making Twitter Smarter

stanleyyork — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:15:27 -0000

yes, exactly what i was talking about. a more scalable approach. and with other add-on services/applications i think it would be easier for twitter to monetize.

Re: Making Twitter Smarter

TimWalker — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:17:58 -0000

Thanks for this, Fred -- I hadn't seen this, but I can put it to use right away.

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fredwilson — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:09:58 -0000

Extensions are a great way to test out an idea but I agree that a server
side extension is a better approach.

I'll relay this to the twitter team

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John Treadway — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 09:00:43 -0000

The application is cool, but the model for distribution via toolbar plug-in is broken.

If Twitter could get opened up a bit - not as far as fb, but a bit - a platform model could be used where stocktwits runs a service that you can subscribe to where your tweets go through them before going out again. Send a tweet to twitter.com, the stocktwits "server extension" I have authorized through my twitter account grabs the tweet (and twitter does not post it right away). Then, stocktwits does it's magic and twitter recognizes the $ticker extension as a clickable item for those who use stocktwits... anyway - the way to make this sing is for Twitter to build in a server-side extensions platform.

Re: Making Twitter Smarter

fredwilson — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:57:49 -0000

On many fronts