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Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

Test — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:38:13 -0000

Testing...sorry.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

joey — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:36:40 -0000

test

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

RacerRick — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:36:06 -0000

Fred - I just put disqus on three sites... these guys have done a REALLY good job of figuring out how to make it simple to put on other sites. Drag and drop and ANY Page on the web can have comments.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:10:03 -0000

Okay, I'll look into this right now. Thanks for bringing this out; I was not entirely familiar with it. We didn't want to be neglectful.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:04:57 -0000

Love ya too. ;)

Thanks for the patience.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

jackson — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:23:23 -0000

Wow! 58 comments. Is that a record? Seems there was once a 92 or something like that. Anyway, I appreciate the proactive approach you've taken, let's hope Danielha gets wise and uses his time fixing my concerns instead of replying to the unwashed masses herein.

I am the comment king
I will say anything.....

Oh, hey look! It remembered me!

Love ya Danielha!

This system is awesome.

Fred, it's easy to see this is a 'keeper'.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

Guest — Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:36:10 -0000

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Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

riozen — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:17:08 -0000

control is the old terrestial paradigm - facilitation is the new online paradigm. so go ahead and change brother especially if it enhances ease of use.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

bijan — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 06:49:07 -0000

i like the new system. Yes, it's raw but kudos to you for trying it out early and letting avc.blogs folks give feedback to the developers early. that's good for everyone.

Traditional comments are in dramatic need of improvement. i like where this is going. Keep it up.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

greenskeptic — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:44:49 -0000

I'm with Jackson. It should remember commenters past and I shouldn't have to fill out the name/email/web form everytime I comment. Like the thread idea and the feed-link concept. But why do only some commenters get pics? Do I have to sign in? Please, not another password to remember!

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

harpos_blues — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:00:27 -0000

oops! I screwed up my footnumbering, as I said I am greatly annoyed.

The third footnote above (UK criminal offense) should read:

[3] Accessibility 101: http://www.accessibility101...

and

"Section 508: Web-based Intranet and Internet Information and Applications (1194.22) states:" should correspond to footnote [4]

My apologies

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

harpos_blues — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:48:51 -0000

This is my third post in this thread and I apologize for the longish post -- but I'm annoyed. Here goes:

Disqus folks: Your implementation isn't working well with my "assistive" technologies; you're not compliant with US accessibility guidelines. Please see: http://section508.gov/ . Section 508 is the US interpretation of the the W3C WAI and WCAG guidelines, as translated into law. Other international entities / organizations have similar accessibility requirements, many far more stringent than Section 508.

For example, in the UK the equivalent of the US Section 508 and American With Disabilities Act (ADA) is the Disability Discrimination Acts (DDA) of 1995[1] and 2005[2]. One of the principle differences between the US and UK is a matter of enforcement. In the US lack of information technology accessibility compliance is a largely a civil matter, in the UK it's a criminal offense[3]. Thus in the US, the Federal gov't has chosen to use the "power of the wallet", as the largest information technology purchaser in the world:

Section 508: Web-based Intranet and Internet Information and Applications (1194.22) states[3]:

"The standards apply to Federal web sites but not to private sector web sites (unless a site is provided under contract to a Federal agency, in which case only that web site or portion covered by the contract would have to comply)."

Basically this means that all vendors participating in a US Federal contract or sub-contract (trickling down to the State and Municipal level, including educational institutions) must be Section 508 compliant. Believe it or not, it's been a remarkably effective approach. All major US information technology hardware and software vendors have complied with Section 508. Compliance statements are available from the vendor websites.

There's no need for Disqus to re-invent the wheel here, many of the major US vendors have released their accessibility development toolkits as "free" or "open source" (including Linux implementation). IBM is leading the charge here, please see: http://www-03.ibm.com/able/... and http://www-03.ibm.com/able/... .

Disqus will want to use the Dojo toolkit: http://www-03.ibm.com/able/...

Again, I apologize for the rant. But the dichotomy between the so-called web 2.0 memes of "community" and "conversation" and the associated technology implementations that have largely neglected the needs of the disabled, have begun to *really piss me off*

[1] UK Disability Discrimination Act - 1995: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts...
[2] UK Disability Discrimination Act - 2005: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts...
[3]
[4]] Section 508: Summary of Section 508 Standards: http://section508.gov/index...

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:58:58 -0000

That's a good point with UTF8. I've just made a note of that.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

Mark — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:01:09 -0000

But I already have a system to do that on pretty much every other website on the internet, I don't want to have to go back to subscribing to individual comment feeds or even a "global disqus" feed for all my comments on disqus-enabled sites.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

Ian Wilson — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:17:52 -0000

Second post. I see you are using a cookie to store my data, so I dont have to enter my name again, not sure what "Jackson" is reffering to then?

If this is javascript, why the page reload, surely the comment should just be added to the DOM and the DIV extended with no need for a (AVC length) page reload?

My comment appeared several posts from the end of the thread, not at the end, that is confusing. Something odd there.

No negative comments on this system but also no "wow" factor yet. But no reason to dump the system.

One request, please, please make your system end to end UTF8, there is a big blogging world out there and most of it is not in English/ASCII. Do your self a favor and set everything by default to UTF8.

utf8 test -> テスト

BTW your home page is down, server error 500.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

Ian Wilson — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:04:03 -0000

Looking at the time stamps it seems that time zone is not taken into account? They dont seem sequential? That could be an interesting feature, especially with a globally read blog like this one, seeing people log on and comment as time zones change.

Comment feeds would be the killer app for me, but the thought of subscribing to a single post is a non starter, how would you do that in an easy and intuitive fashion? How about a Firefox sidebar reader that you can drag and drop temporary feeds into...

"My Comments" aggregation will drive adoption of this system, we all have big egos and like it when we get to be part of a conversation and not just a commenter so I think bloggers will add this to their sites as a way of spurring adoption on the sites they read and comment on.

Kill the email requirement, it is not necessary for users, or cookie the data.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

NICCAI — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:10:17 -0000

I made this comments about your comments system during your Taste Neighbors post:

One comment about your new comments system. As a UI person, I dislike the field labels being in the field only. This approach works well for a single field item like search, but not so for multiples. I found myself tabbing out and back to see which field was what when leaving my name, email, and website.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:28:13 -0000

There is a default sort, but we'll have the option for readers to easily set their choice right on the page.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:49:38 -0000

True - Anonymous isn't the right word to use, and especially if the poster includes a blog url with the comment. We're going to have a good way for this.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:44:26 -0000

We've had a couple people mention how it's more difficult to see who the people are by their hyperlink. We haven't ignored this and we'll address this really soon.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:26:04 -0000

We'll look into "Okay2". Website urls is optional and that should definitely not occur. Thanks.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:24:13 -0000

All sorts of feed-goodness is on the way. :)

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:22:09 -0000

Hi Ewan, we currently have a way for readers to change how the sorting is displayed. We'll try to push that out live really soon.

You're right - a main point is to be able to claim and track your comments. We haven't emphasized that yet (the register/login is obscure) since we haven't fully launched. But since this here is as public as one can get, we're going to address this issue asap. Thanks.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:17:55 -0000

We haven't forgotten feeds. :)

There's going to be a number of different feeds for comments, and we're wrapping up that feature now.

Re: New Comment System Feedback Please

obscurelyfamous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:16:08 -0000

Just wanted to chime in and say that we'll have the ability to switch between display names really soon. :)