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fredwilson — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 06:06:54 -0000

i reblogged that first paragraph on fredwilson.vc.

for some good africa/bob geldof humor, check this out

http://youtube.com/watch?v=...

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FT — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:00:00 -0000

funny ....

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S.t — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:47:38 -0000

Fred -- thought you'd like this.
You're gonna miss him when he's gone

http://www.time.com/time/wo...

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fredwilson — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:28:02 -0000

I guess I am a bad democrat then

But I am still a democrat

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S.t — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:19:37 -0000

I lifted this from an autism-sufferers chat-site:

Requirements of a good Democrat:

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion
on demand.

2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and
governments create prosperity.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding
Americans are more of a threat than U.S. Nuclear weapons technology
in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected
by cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more
affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being
homosexual is natural.

7. You ha ve to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of
federal funding.

8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach
fourth graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same
kids about sex.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but
loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than
actually doing something to earn it.

11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his
own money to make "The Passion of the Christ" for financial gain only.

12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain
parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports
certain parts of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are
too high.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem
are more important t o American history than Thomas Jefferson, Thomas
Edison, and A.G. Bell.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but
racial quotas and set-asides are not.

16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a
very nice person.

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't
worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't
been in charge.

18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in
jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.

19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag,
transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected,
and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the
Chinese Government is somehow in the best interest to the United
States.

21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast,
right wing conspiracy.

22. You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers the
day off on Christmas Day but it's not okay to say "Merry Christmas.
_________________

Re: Obama's Tribal Garb Photo

fredwilson — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:57:03 -0000

It's his in your face politics that make people hate him

He's so smug

Being smug and incompetent at the same time is hate inducing

fred

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FT — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:45:16 -0000

Yes, we each have our opinions and it is fine.

I do obviously disagree w/ pretty much most of your points and I find these discussions never really change any minds.

I will beg your indulgence over one more question ... re: the Supreme's.

Bush has appointed 2 justices. Alito and Roberts. Both excellent jurists.
That amounts to "creating a supreme court that does not match the views of mainstream america". ?

I am unaware of any requirement that any justices views must "represent the views of mainstream america". The president has the perogative to appoint qualified justices that will interpret the law and the constitution, and I don't see how anyone can argue that Alito and Roberts don't meet that standard (by a country mile).

Second, I would argue that mainstream america is favorably disposed towards Alito and Roberts, and probably more so than say a R B Ginsburg.

So other than you would seemingly prefer more liberal oriented justices than conservative oriented justices, what was so terrible ? Bush appointed 2 excellent justices, confirmed by the Senate, and that is his perogative as president. Beyond that he has zero influence on those justices or the courts; he didn't create anything.

And as far as antagonizing our allies all over the world, I am not buying it. Nor the enemies part either, but tha's a whole other discussion.

Anyway, we probably won't change any minds here, and that is fine.

I just have a thing about the types of personal venom tossed at Bush because of differences over policy.

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fredwilson — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:18:01 -0000

We can disagree on Bush. That's fine.

It's my opinion that he's been the worst President in a very long time. He
has presided over a very meaningful movement toward economic inequality in
our country. Surely that has been the result of many things. But his tax and
fiscal policies have made it worse. And his decision to take the US into a
war in the middle east, essentially all by ourselves, has been a disaster.
His response to 9/11 was ineffective and has made the terrorism problem
worse. He's created a supreme court that does not match the views of
mainstream america. He's antagonized our allies and enemies all over the
world.

These are my opinions. You have yours. That's fine.

Fred

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FT — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:53:24 -0000

Fred, I know this is your blog, and I am trying not to antagonize, but I am so sick and tired of Bush hatred in general, and yes in my view it is hate that is not rational (its ok to dislike the guy and its ok to disagree w/ him politically) , so I have to ask:

Are you saying if Bush's approval rating improved, to say over 50%, he would no longer be an idiot ?

And when he received 62 million votes for President, he wasn't an idiot then ?

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FT — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:46:13 -0000

And for the legions of Bush hater's (I am not one), being "better than Bush" or "anyone but Bush" is hardly a qualification.

I am amazed how people have bought into 7+ years of Bush bashing; it is disgraceful; but typical for New Yorkers that live in that bubble where contrary opinions aren't heard or well received.

When I hear people commenting how sad and pathetic it is about the disrespect the President has gotten from the leaders of the other side, then perhaps there compaints about cheap shots in a campaign, because the BushHitler crowd has given plenty of shots that are far more odious than cheap shots.

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FT — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:40:12 -0000

Hi Rob ... I like your blog, and your track record in VC biz, but Obama (the anointed one) ...c'mon.

I am sorry, but he is a lightweight and should he be the Dem nominee expect major buyer's remorse by the fall as his lack of accomplishment, and skeletons (drugs, rezko, others) come out, as they should. So far he has gotten pretty much of a free pass, the SNL skit wasn't too far out.

BTW I hate Hillary and am not particularly enamored w/ McCain. Obama seems likeable enough, but I would be frightened to have him as Prez.

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fredwilson — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:22:31 -0000

I don't think so. GWB has less than 30pcnt approval ratings. He's a pariah in his own party.

Fred

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Hockeydino — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 06:28:59 -0000

This isnt much different than the McCain Times stuff. Unfortunately it's just part of the game, and it will get worse. I agree hopefully it will just get out of the way now and over with. I think, but I'm assuming that most people see right through this stuff. However I am sure it has to have an impact. It is sad and pathetic to have this stuff really...embarassing

Let's talk about the real issues, Not his lack of experience, but it his mind numbing rhetoric of saying nothing at all. Or the fact he proposes the biggest tax increase and largest government we have ever known. Those are the issues, not this right wing attack propoganda. Then again I keep forgetting this is a popularity contest - another American Idol show. First in show!

Thanks,

Simon Cowell

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Guest — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 05:36:31 -0000

Fred, I agree, it's a good thing, and it's a good test. No, not for him, though... for the American people... Will they pay attention to substance or to slime? We'll see, but the early signs are encouraging. I like what Michelle said, people are paying attention and they want to get to the bottom of it. There is nothing he can do about things like this, it's only a test for teh voters...

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jackson — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:07:17 -0000

Here at the Jackson '08 campaign headquarters we're quite sure photos of me pulling bong hits will surface. I feel it could only help me.

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stone — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:59:12 -0000

Right, like for actors and actresses, singers, golfers, baseball players, jugglers, and, um, er, presidents?

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S.t — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:46:55 -0000

'... won't be worse than the idiot who has been running our country ...'

THAT's 'hate'

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S.t — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:45:52 -0000

Obama Denounces Farrakhan Endorsement

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwi...

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fredwilson — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:57:01 -0000

You spreading hate on my blog

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ErikSchwartz — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:42:51 -0000

Yet John Sculley was a lot more "qualified" and "experienced"...

Sometimes talent is more important than other qualifications.

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S.t — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:39:01 -0000

I don't know what's scarier: Obama in Somali outfit celebrating the Black Hawk Down anniversary, or Obama being sworn in on Inauguration Day with Minister Farrakhan seated in Obama's guest row

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stone — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:38:53 -0000

I totally agree that our current president is a complete idiot and Barack Obama is not.

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Scott (すこっと) — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:14:20 -0000

I do not believe everyone hired as a board member in boardrooms throughout the world are all people who have run companies necessarily. In many cases board members are added because of their network value, their connections and other factors that do not equate to experience.

To say Obama is not experienced enough to be added as a board member is just a little out there methinks.

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stone — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:49:37 -0000

Steve Jobs was/is a pioneer and visionary. How can you equate what he's accomplished to the Illinois State Senator? You're joking, eh? Steve Jobs is one of the great business people in the history of the world. Pathetic.

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Barbarian2u — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:52:13 -0000

Agreed, better now then later! Obama's more resilient than a lot of people think. I am a conservation, but have very real reservations about crossing party lines this election. Maybe I am getting old, but its getting to be less about Reds or Blues. This a time that this country has to come together and formulate rational and logical responses to issues on defense, healthcare, social security, etc. A new way to approach it is needed and is refreshing.