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Re: Peer Producing A Web 2.0 Keynote

fredwilson — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:21:08 -0000

Maybe. Give me three reasons I should?

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Bryan Thatcher — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:33:31 -0000

Fred will you be daring enough to use Empressr to present your keynote?

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Liz — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:30:11 -0000

My first exposure to the Internet was when my college in ~1994 decided to use email instead of sending out paper announcements of events and we were all "forced" to get email accounts. It was a pain back then because you had separate dial-up modems and speeds were so slow or you had to go to the library and get on a networked computer to check your account.

But I bring it up here to say you might mention how universities & colleges popularized Internet use and email exchanges in Gen Xers & younger Baby Boomers. It made using this technology in work environments much smoother for graduates.

Now that so many Millennials each have their own laptop and iPhone it's almost hard to comprehend that 15 years ago, it wasn't unusual to be in college and not be able to afford a computer (my Mac Classic was $1500 in 1992 which was a lot of money at the time...I had to use part of my student loan!). For many teenagers during the Web 1.0 phase, they were introduced to technology in schools, not courses but just using technology on a daily basis.

But then my school used the text-based Lynx browser forever! It took a long time before they upgraded to a graphic browser. We were using an Internet without images which is hard to imagine now...but it wasn't that long ago, really. It's amazing how fast people's expectations change.

Re: Peer Producing A Web 2.0 Keynote

fredwilson — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:29:06 -0000

There is no malware there

Haute secure probably thinks wiki means bad

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Dan Weinreb — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:08:34 -0000

I tried clicking through to the Wiki page at http://usv.jot.com/, and my Haute Secure plugin told that they had detected malware at the site and I should not proceed to the page. I have no idea what this is about, but I thought you would want to know. :(

Re: Peer Producing A Web 2.0 Keynote

falicon — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:01:03 -0000

I'm pretty sure the exhibit (and the keynotes) can be accessed for just the $100 ticket price...and even that you can skip by using the code below (I got it in my confirmation email after using another code to get a free pass)...

To be fair though, I'm not 100% sure what I'll be getting free access to with my pass (or what the code I'm providing below gives you free access to)...but give it a shot and read through the small print for details I guess. (it's my belief that the $1700 version is for access to all the 'tracks' and things like that, but that the keynotes and other presentations are available to the rest of us at the lower rate)

*INVITE A COLLEAGUE*

Do you have a friend or co-worker who should attend Web 2.0 Expo
NY? Copy and paste this special offer and your friend will receive
$100 off a Conference Pass or a free Expo Hall Only pass:

A friend invites you to save $100 on a Conference Pass to Web 2.0
Expo New York. Register with discount code webny08fr to secure your
discount at http://www.web2expo.com/ny

--- follow up; I just checked the web 2.0 site and it does appear that if you use a code like the one above you can get to Fred's speech (and others):

Expo Hall Only
Access to:

* All Keynotes
* Expo Hall & all events there (Wed-Thu)
* Sessions in Sponsored Sessions Track Only
* Web2Open
* BoF sessions

Expo Hall Only Passholders Please Note:
By registering for the Expo Hall Only pass, you are confirming that you are 18 years of age or older and will be able to provide proof of industry involvement by presenting a business card and personal id. Web 2.0 Expo New York is not open to the public.

Re: Peer Producing A Web 2.0 Keynote

fredwilson — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:44:13 -0000

Thanks

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fredwilson — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:15:11 -0000

Thanks steve!

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etpickett — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:51:24 -0000

Wikinomics. You know the info I'm sure, but the way they weave it together makes for a good contextual narrative Fred. Please let me know if this helps. I'm still sleepless in Silicon Valley, a New Yawker in exile.

Re: Peer Producing A Web 2.0 Keynote

smartone2 — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:43:19 -0000

Here ya go Fred

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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Ethan Bauley — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:32:29 -0000

I think "The Only Sustainable Edge" by Hagel and John Seely Brown would be a great book to look at.

You could say it's about how some of your investment theses (data flows, specialization+collaboration, etc) are being reflected in business networks (i.e. a network as value chain); TOSE redefines competition and advantage, in my opinion.

It could really be thought-provoking when thinking about how the NYC scene plugs into the rest of the tech industry.

Give the intro a read if you haven't checked it out!

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Steve Kane — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:49:14 -0000

Fred, the wiki doesn't support my browser (safari) so i'll chime in here -

i'd make sure to note the 1994-1995 births of the various ad sale rep firm businesses -- softbank lanched one, as did cox (via their humungous tele-rep tv spot sales rep firm subsidiary) as did Katz and as did most of the traditional ad sales rep firm companies.

i'd argue this is maybe single largest contributor to a startups success in those early days -- by allowing many often later big successful startups -- sportsline, tripod, gamesville et al -- to get into ad sales without having to create internal departments and staff etc

Re: Peer Producing A Web 2.0 Keynote

fredwilson — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:39:09 -0000

Good points

But those who pitch in will be shaping the speech. The things they think
are important will get in. and the presentation will be made available here
and on the wiki before I deliver it in person

fred

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gregorylent — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:32:50 -0000

((expenses + 20%) - (sponsors contribution))/ no. of attendees = admission ... but i doubt they think that way .. the photo on the top left of the poster is a strange choice, endless lines of tired looking people waiting .. wow, fun, is not the message

i look forward to yet another look into your mind with the publication of the speech

Re: Peer Producing A Web 2.0 Keynote

fredwilson — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:01:53 -0000

yes, that's the plan

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fredwilson — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:01:25 -0000

i will post my talk to the web before the event and let people view it and critique it and we can have a discussion about it. it will be a participatory thing. i agree about the $1700. what do you think the right price is?

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fredwilson — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 07:00:10 -0000

i am writing my own damn speech. i am asking for inspiration and ideas not someone to do my work for me. and the wiki is everyone's work and everyone's property. it's there for anyone else to use as well.

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JimmyWebster — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:04:27 -0000

Or Silicon Roundabout?

http://blogs.ft.com/techblo...

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Leonard Boord — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:53:23 -0000

'http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

This video is an amazing 19 minute presentation on the first 5000 days of the internet and a vision of the next 5000 days. By Kevin Kelly at the Ted Conference.

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markslater — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:18:15 -0000

its better than the silicon ditch in slough fred!

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sandbergsm — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:41:29 -0000

Great idea Fred. As much as it would be ideal for all contributors to see you give the speech live, that it will be published here or on your blog is just fine.

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emrecan — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:03:21 -0000

Columbia University Graduate School of Business focuses strongly on entrepreneurship and runs a Eugene Lang Entrepreneurial Initiative Fund, which led to foundation of several start-ups in the past. It could turn out to be a good resource.

http://www4.gsb.columbia.ed...

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John McGrath — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:50:45 -0000

Fred, this isn't meant as a slam, you give back all the time, by writing this blog (your output is amazing) and in many other ways. But my crack about the conference price, and Gregg's pique, raise a larger point.

In collaborative efforts, as in markets, the common good is created by people meeting their own needs. It's a point well explicated in both the books I mentioned, and one I see every day on wordie.org. People are in it for their own reasons; the amazing corpus being created is a happy byproduct.

Since Web 2.0 is prohibitively expensive, most of the people you're asking for help won't see it. It really reduces the incentive to pitch in, knowing you can't participate in the full work. Like dean said, a barcamp or the like might be a better place to pitch collaborative production, where there's more of an alignment between what people put in, and what they get out of it.

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dean collins — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:06:42 -0000

yep you have to wonder who their target audience is at $1700 a ticket.

go attend a barcamp or something similar if you want to get really cutting edge 'real world' developments.

Dean

Re: Peer Producing A Web 2.0 Keynote

John McGrath — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:43:20 -0000

Two books, if you haven't read them: Ambient Findability, by Peter Morville, and Everything is Miscellaneous, by David Weinberger. They're both great. Neither is specific to New York, but both authors live outside the Silicon Valley nexus (in Michigan and Cambridge, respectively), which counts for something.

So, can you put me on the list now, as the rock stars say? Because I'm not going to pony up the frickin' $1700 it costs to attend the conference. Any idea if any of the presentation will be webcase or archived in any way?