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Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

fredwilson — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:39:38 -0000

I'm happy to do that ethan. Thanks again for getting HP involved

Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

Ethan Bauley — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:47:09 -0000

I have to say that I'm pretty blown away by how much bigger the total $ raised was this year, especially when you exclude the HP contribution...

And your note about increasing the # of participants is interesting, too...it seems like the Meetup incentive really drove that metric. Really cool idea for layering more game dynamics on top of the Challenge.

Next year we should do something wacky with the DChoose API + the SMC!

We'll have to have a brainstorm on that one ;-)

Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

fredwilson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:36:36 -0000

Thanks

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Anu Nigam — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:58:10 -0000

Minor typo, "17,824" should be "18,824" based on the spread sheet. You made $1K more!!

Congrats!

Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

ShanaC — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:33:54 -0000

I can't, but I avoid techcruch unless I have to because it is a huge flog. It's a gigantic advertisement.

Still, as with all Mass media on the web that gets to a critical mass point- it obey's my new law.

It links at a rate of n^n rate, though it may be more now. He's not only a Locus point of distrubution, where his work obey Reed's Law, since he is considered a central point of (albeit bad) news, but also one where it obeys Sarnoff's Law, since it is distrubtory news placed in a Linked environment.

It moves extremely quickly if it is a hot spot. Fred, to quote Mcluhan

"Cardinal Newman said of Napoleon, "He understood the Grammar of gunpowder." Napoleon had paid some attention to other media as well, especially the semaphore telegraph that gave him great advantage over his enemies. He is on record for saying that "Three hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets.""

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ShanaC — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:10:19 -0000

There is a reasonyou never see me talking about shoes here, but that I do talk abou tthem with my female friends. Think how wierd that would be.
I'm nerdy enough for the tech discussions. I like it for some reason. But I also love shoes. And I have a passion for fun stockings and bright nail polish, much to the chagrin of my friends in conservative jobs (and I refuse to change, I think it's important to have personality when you dress).

Here you see golf and I pass. It's a real macho atmosphere. I expect that your office and a lot of tech places are similar. I'm never going to get that. I'm ok with that. A lot of women are not. We're gendered. I was raised to respect the gender line. Guys need to be guyish. I'm not, and I don't really want to be.
Writing for a gender neutral audience is difficult, because it's about how do you appeal across two sometimes very different mindsets, especially when they compete in very different worlds, and in very different ways. There are a bunch of articles floating around right now about "VC gender Gap" I suspect that some of it is that women think different about career goals and career planning, about how a work environment should be like, and what counts as competitive and successful; I've been tracking some of them. To get women to come here, you are going to have to come to heads to heads about why women choose certain professions, and what their concerns are that are holding them back, and what that does for the men in the same professions. it's a really frightening discussion for everyone involve- since it implies massive social upheaval about the meaning of basic gender roles.

In the interim: I'm going call out some really locker room like behavior. For those women who choose to come, you are very welcome here. I'll be perfectly happy to have you in my clique of girly only things while the guys do the guy stuff that I will never fully understand.

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ShanaC — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:54:59 -0000

It would be so cool to have "best of" notes before Thursday. Though that would totally piss my teacher off. Especially when I have to write papers.

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ShanaC — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:53:37 -0000

I do not hate Hunch! If anything, I think Hunch is like crack, any could totally manipulate me back, and I find that scary o_O.

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kidmercury — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:00:08 -0000

great comment, shana. while i think zynga is the most promising internet company i know of, i agree with your disses on their games not being communal enough. in my opinion, social networks need a mission statement, and games need to advance the mission statement. at least that is the framework i use.

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kidmercury — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:56:29 -0000

if you are ever up for elaborating or providing a rebuttal, that would be really cool -- i think it's a really important issue for those in the social gaming biz. and of course you know i would much rather pounce on mikey than give him credit.

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kidmercury — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:54:23 -0000

i meant selling stuff, although now i wonder if you could raise more money through charity than through selling stuff? that'd be terrible, but i think it is quite possible.

as for what's cooler than educating kids, well, 9/11 truth, of course! besides, once kids are educated in that, they will have all the knowledge they need to fix the problems their ancestors handed them.

Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

fredwilson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:01:09 -0000

Like what? I can't imagine anything cooler than educating kids

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fredwilson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:01:09 -0000

But mikey, as you call him kid, doesn't have all his facts straight. And you can tell who is feeding him if you read the post carefully

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fredwilson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:59:05 -0000

There's a scene in that movie in the conference room of my prior firm, flatiron partners. Fortunately we saw through their flimsy business plan. We did fall for a few others though. It was a heady time. I learned a lot from it

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fredwilson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:57:07 -0000

Perhaps you should get your facts straight before you accuse anyone of scamming

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fredwilson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:53:34 -0000

You are right about women. They don't gravitate to the topics I write about

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fredwilson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:52:53 -0000

I am going to do something soon to get at that demographic data in a fun way shana

You'll be distressted to know it involves hunch

Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

fredwilson — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:49:52 -0000

It is amazing howard. That's a lot of money. I'm kind of stunned myself

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ShanaC — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:26:14 -0000

Alright- There are a bunch of reasons why this is happening as explained to me by users of Zynga games.
Considering that right now I don't have any relationship with them beyond pundit and applicant. I've got no fear.

Smart users understand the internal game economy. They're also the most monetizable when it comes to qactual purchases of anything. "We the nerds" and all.

They also know, as explained to me here, and by actual USERS!!!! that it isn't worth it. They know that playing for fuel in Farmville won't get them along any faster in the game, really. Same with mafia wars. It passes the time. Real strategy is semi-abset, or absent enough that I can have all these games explained to me in 20 minutes flat. And that there are game guides floating around on the internet.

(This is the joy of being a college student who is a size 0-4 in a Zynga shirt, people will actually explain you stuff if you asked politely and explain why)

They also know the offers will not add any benefit in their lives they either cannot get elsewhere- or get cheaper. So wrong aim. I once asked one person if there was in game communication or teamwork- not fully, or not to an extent where it was clearly neccessary. This is to Zynga's et all disadvantage as Viral Games- they are not played as groups, or clearly played as groups. Even if you are on a team, it is your facebook friends- in no way do the games force you to make contact with them in order to game strategic advantage, or to force a purchase. No one has to talk to each other to coordinate to do well if they so choose, including if they want to purchase.

The only reason I mention this, because it was explictly mentioned to me, by users, that the reason that they think people buy stuff is Bling for themselves and for gifts. or to One up. Even though right now they are proof of concept of virtual goods, they have to figure out under what situations people will buy- and it has to be one that pushed by a community to get some greater reward. Until the games are very communally oriented, it will be very hard.

@ Zynga if you find this, I really do believe in games. Push yourself hard. Be strong.

Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

ShanaC — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:07:04 -0000

Kid, you are a great bouncer. Never Forget That. ;)

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kidmercury — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:13:37 -0000

well of course it is with great pride that i did not donate to perpetuating the public indoctrination system, but it is good to see the monetization potential of blog stars like fred and tomato nation. fred managed to raise 18k from 205 people, imagine if something real and cool was being sold -- i think the monetization potential would be even greater.

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kidmercury — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:06:26 -0000

IMHO mikey makes some very good points and that is a great and much needed article, although i think the primary culprit is facebook. i view it as their responsibility to protect users against scams.

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Dave Pinsen — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:37:31 -0000

Startup.com is an entertaining documentary. I believe Fred met one of the principals in the company that was the subject of the film.

Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

Anonymous — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:26:37 -0000

Perhaps you should reimburse all of the people that were scammed by your portfolio company Zynga with the money you raised http://www.techcrunch.com/2...

Re: The Donors Choose Threepeat Is Complete

ShanaC — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:49:54 -0000

One caveat- I don't think you get enough women on a day to day basis. Would still be interesting to see what would happen if you ran with all the blogs that participated the metrics of what caused people to donate to DonorsChoose in the end- it could be very telling about advertising on the Web.