DISQUS

A VC: The Rising Power Of Social Media As A Traffic Driver

  • Jon Myers · 9 months ago
    Great post. These two specific observations FB and Twitter as a traffic driver have weighted heavily into the design and development choices on my new projects.
  • Robert Seidman · 9 months ago
    I think you're wrong if you think organic posting of links to isn't occurring on Facebook. When you see the stories about perezhilton.com now getting more traffic from Facebook thant Google, almost all of the linking seems to be organic rather than anything he worked hard to orchestrate.

    Clearly there is value in the social linking, but I think Arrington's post demonstrates very well that it's probably not worth investing much effort on Twitter *if* your primary goal is traffic generation. it's very easy to send links to Twitter without investing very much time, but based on Arrington's post, even as one of the biggest accounts on Twitter, Techcrunch is probably only getting around 2% of its traffic from it.

    Fortunately, I think most publishers (including TechCrunch) are in the space of prioritizing content creation over investing lots of energy trying to drive traffic from social networks. Ultimately, it seems that focus still results in increasing traffic from social networks.
  • Ben Watson · 9 months ago
    I agree completely...Twitter has consistently shown in our top referrers for several months now and for some videos and apps it is the top traffic driver. (on Overlay.TV)
  • Julie Poplawski · 9 months ago
    totally depends on your business I suppose; my business lifeline is Facebook. Twitter is our community glue - but my clients are age 20-45 dieters. My husbands business sells mostly to age 50-70 and he hasnt gotten any play from FB or twitter...
  • Adarsh Dilip Pallian · 9 months ago
    true - my new site (http://www.tweetizen.com) is based off twitter and as expected, 90% of traffic i get is from twitter RT's.... which I've begun to realize is the ultimate link baiting tool. One tweet from mashable with your link and you've got about 2000 hits in 30 minutes and about 200 re-tweets... amazing how many ppl enjoy that.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    Yes, it is important to understand what services get traffic from social
    media and what do not
  • jeremiahsjamison · 9 months ago
    Based on a focus group of myself, I've observed the following nuance. A link that is posted by a friend who's got taste I trust is a link I'll take time to stop and read. For whatever reason--I'd hypothesize it has to do with the known network of friends I have on FBK--those links come with a strong correlation to something I'd find useful.

    Twitter posts are much more 'over the transom'--there's a river of them flowing by at any point in time. On twitter it has much more to do with the quality of the link, less the referrer.

    Nevertheless, I'd agree that both (and social media in general) are going to be big (and low cost) drivers of traffic going forward.
  • Nathaniel McNamara · 9 months ago
    These are some very interesting statistics. thanks for sharing.

    one of the interesting things I have noticed is how boxee is encouraging their users to submit what they are doing to twitter to drive traffic back to the originating source. I would love to know how much traffic Boxee is delivering for their site using this feature. It looks like they are inserting messages into twitter whenever someone views or "likes" a show at a pace of one insert every 1 or 2 minutes.

    For example:
    watching The Daily Show with Jon Stewart: Tue, Mar 10, 2009 (s14 | e34) on Boxee. check it out at http://tinyurl.com/bzzcf8

    or

    watching Family Guy: Family Gay (s7 | e8) on Boxee. check it out at http://tinyurl.com/ajx939 (expand)


    --Brief Plug--
    My company, SocialFeet (still in beta), is doing this for multiple sites. We identify 'social actions', such as comments, posts, views, rating, etc. and make it possible for sites to empower their users to share their social actions with their friends on Facebook. [twitter coming soon] We see significant value for sites to leverage their users in spreading the word about the interesting activities they are doing throughout the web.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    I think it makes sense to automate this activity via a widget
  • Divesh Sisodraker · 9 months ago
    Fred, love your blog, first time poster.

    You touch on a feature of Twitter that I don't hear a lot of people talk about, and that is the concept of message amplification. Between the instant messenger like response times and the Marshall stack like amplification that you get via retweets, the ability to drive traffic via Twitter is unprecedented. In our Twitter based recruiting app, we see employers get 5X amplification on retweets alone, that's a pretty loud megaphone.
  • centernetworks · 9 months ago
    Fred - as an investor of Twitter, I'd love your commentary here:
    http://www.centernetworks.com/twitter-customer-...

    Thanks
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    I left a comment
  • Joe Lazarus · 9 months ago
    Interesting. What portion of your total traffic comes from Twitter, if you don't mind sharing?

    My site is almost too small a sample, but a little less than 1.5% of my visits are from Twitter. I don't link to myself that often, though, aside from my Twitter bio, which points to my blog. Twitter traffic converts about 20% lower than the site average based on page views / visit and time spent. The Twitter visitors are also much more likely to be repeat visitors than people entering my site from a source like Google. I don't have any data on Facebook since I never link to my blog from there.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    About 8% comes from twitter

    Almost half of my traffic is direct
    Ten percent is feed reader driven
    Google search is about 20%
    Hacker news and techmeme is about 10% combined
    The rest is social media driven (twitter, facebook, and blogs)
  • awaldstein · 9 months ago
    Fred.
    Your percentages speak to the huge popularity of you as a brand. Most companies with some momentum and a customer base would have Google be the largest percent and direct in the 15-20%.
    Congrats to you on this. Its a complement
  • Joe Lazarus · 9 months ago
    8% from Twitter is impressive. Clearly, I need need to make some new friends :)
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    Its not just that I have a lot of followers (I do) but a lot of retweeting is the biggest factor
  • Joe Lazarus · 9 months ago
    I see. So, I need not just more friends, but better friends... ones that
    retweet me. Or more likely, I just need to be more interesting.

    Thanks for sharing the stats. I hope more people follow your lead so we can
    see if the trends you're seeing are consistent across other sites &
    verticals.
  • rerollarcoaster · 9 months ago
    Can you explain what "retweeting" is? Just getting my feet wet with all this and am still learning. Thanks.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    When you see something on twitter you like, you rebroadcast it to your followers. Copy the tweet and send a message that says RT @whomever "............."

    That's a retweet
  • RacerRick · 9 months ago
    Arrington links TC articles in his twitter. I'm sure a lot of his traffic comes that way.

    Fred, you should add your RSS feed to your twitter. I would definitely visit AVC more often that way. (I doubt it would increase overall traffic however).
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    It feels like spamming twitter

    I do it manually when it feels right
  • RacerRick · 9 months ago
    It might be a tad Guy Kawaski, but... twitter has replaced my feed reader so I like it when people add their rss feed into their twitter feed.
  • Alan W Silberberg · 9 months ago
    My site, www,you2gov.com is seeing an explosion in traffic coming from Twitter, and secondarily from Facebook. We also get a ton of organic searches, but the Twitter traffic is consistently in the top 3 referrals (Over the last 3 months). Additionally, I have seen personally, that when I post new content with a link on Twitter, there is an immediate jump in traffic, if I post a video, even more so. I also have linked my Twitter updates to Facebook, (but not in notes.) Thanks Fred for some excellent insight.

    Alan W. Silberberg
    CEO, You2Gov, LLC
    @you2gov - Twitter
  • albert · 9 months ago
    Heather Hopkins from Hitwise has an interesting analysis of where traffic flows from Twitter which she compares and contrasts with traffic flows from Google
    http://weblogs.hitwise.com/us-heather-hopkins/2...
  • maxkalehoff · 9 months ago
    Fred, Google is most important driver for us. But a few social media sites, particularly targeted blogs, are second. Important for Traffic, though, is our email marketing to opt-subscribers. Email is still a very big deal.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    For sure

    I've always thought that traffic was customer acqusition and email was customer retention
  • maxkalehoff · 9 months ago
    Email drives customer retention, but it's amazing how much email actually
    drives site traffic and subsequent acquisition. Most subscribers are not
    customers. Some opt-in subscribers are emailed, become visitors, then become
    customers. Some subscribers are past customers and see how we've matured and
    decide to come back as customers again (explaining why traffic and new
    password requests skyrocket after email campaigns). Also, emails that
    include very valuable information tend to get forwarded on; they have a
    higher propensity of generating new subscribers, which then provides new
    opportunity to communicate and drive traffic again.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    That's great to hear. Email audience to b2b content converts to custimers over time
  • brandingme · 9 months ago
    Fred, there's a possibility that even this report for Twitter traffic is on the low side. If I understand correctly, links clicked on through Twitter apps don't pass referral information to Analytics (unless the links are tagged with UTM info). See an example here: http://yoast.com/twitter-analytics/
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    That's right. I have written posts and tweeted with a bit.ly link that reports 1000s of clicks and google analytics only sees a couple hundred of them

    That's because a lot of the clicks come from third party twitter clients
  • jonathanhstrauss · 9 months ago
    The post by Joost that brandingme references is a great summary of the specific issue with Twitter referrers. But I think it also represents a broader emerging issue of effectively tracking and understanding traffic driven by social media in general. When I look at my bit.ly referrers for a link I *only* sent to Twitter, at least 50% of the clicks have no referrer (and I've heard of people seeing that as high as 80% for some links). That means in your Google Analytics, all those clicks are counted towards Organic traffic by default and could meaningfully change the numbers you state above.

    Facebook is a bit better in that all the traffic will have a Facebook URL as a referrer. But this is a far cry from the level of actionable information most publishers have come to expect using referrers and backlinks. For example if someone were to link to a post of mine on their blog, I would see in my Google Analytics (or even my WordPress stats) all the traffic coming from that link and I could easily follow it back myself. By investigating the context of the link, I can better understand the nature of that traffic driver and potentially take action by commenting on the post or contacting the author. However if someone I don't know drives a ton of traffic to my blog by sharing one of my posts on Facebook, I have no way to understand that traffic driver (beyond the fact that it's coming from Facebook) let alone take action on it.

    I believe the combination of social media services as an increasingly important traffic driver and the predominance of dynamic and distributed (via APIs) UIs for those services has effectively broken the utility of conventional referrers/backlinks for traffic measurement. What I think is needed to fix it is essentially Feedburner for links.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    This is part of what twitter plans to address with their services aimed at corporations and businesses who are operating on twitter
  • loupaglia · 9 months ago
    Looks like Jason C.'s putting a price to the Twitter recommended following path is onto something. Very consistent with this referral growth. There will be a new pricing market emerging (perhaps based on ad words) for social media link traffic, already seeing strong signs of social media affiliate linking.
  • paul · 9 months ago
    Arrington and Calacanis don't use Twitter to communicate they're only baiting with links and have no interest in what we think..
  • jstylman · 9 months ago
    “Links are the currency of the web and traffic is money so these are important trends for our portfolio companies and for everyone who does business on the web”

    Indeed, they are Fred. Drawing off that point, it's also important to consider the critical role search plays in tapping social media sites as a distribution valve. While services like Facebook & Twitter are increasingly becoming content navigation hubs, the social nature of sharing plays extraordinarily well into the Google universe, since they’re facilitating the creation of more quality links that are being counted. This, compounded with the fact that these platforms are cranking out structured, fresh content (read: accessible for sites like Google to crawl and expose) make them a search optimizer’s dream.

    Obviously, Facebook is closed for many people, however, for some – especially businesses and groups - it’s not. Same goes for Twitter, blogs and the growing popularity of other sites that enable content creation and sharing. Google is still the largest source of eyeballs (by far) for people looking for information, however, an increasing trend is that search results are invariably being dominated by social media sites across all categories. That means more clickstreams are starting to appear as: Google > social media site > destination.

    Remember though, Google is one of the great ironies in business history… the built their service on the backs of content created by 3rd parties everywhere, but have been notorious for not allowing themselves to be intermediated. It will be interesting to see how they react as social media sites continue to grow in terms of eyeballs and influence.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    Yup. Can't say anymore because you nailed it
  • matt schulte · 9 months ago
    in response to a John Byrnes tweet that mentioned they were finding story ideas by parsing twitter, someone else asked whether they were paying these story generating twitters a royalty...I suggested that the "link" is in a way the new publisher's royalty, and a system of acknowledging those resources used (tweets, comments, etc.) in a way that generates traffic/interest back to the source would be an interesting service.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    Links are currency/money for sure
  • Facebook User · 9 months ago
    Are all Twitter links showing up as Twitter in the referral logs?. How do third party applications (Tweetdeck, TwitterFox etc) and mobile traffic showing up in logs. As I understand it and have been seeing some of these are not showing up as Twitter and are showing up as direct traffic. Do you have any further visibility into this this from what you are seeing?
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    Yup

    Third party clients show up as direct
  • Shane · 9 months ago
    Interesting...we actually see most of our referrals from MySpace. We have found that MySpace works better because it is far more open than the others. I wonder if anyone else has experienced this?
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    I am sure myspace works great if you have the right service for that audience

    Social nets are media like anything else each has its own audience
  • Annalise · 9 months ago
    Social networks are taking over, even for search engines. They aren't in the lead yet but it is bound to happen because of networks like Twitter and Facebook. HopOnThis.com is a social network similar to the above mentioned but it gives members rewards for using the site.
  • joshmchugh · 9 months ago
    In the entertainment biz, Twitter is proving to be a hugely effective generator of traffic. Better yet, it's highly time-specific. For the launch of the second season of one of my company's web series, Dorm Life, we had widely announced a March 2 date, but subsequently struck a deal with MySpace giving them a 48-hour exclusive head start on posting Dorm Life episodes.

    On March 1, a day into the MySpace exclusive period, we noticed that traffic was barely trickling into the MySpace channel. So we sent out a tweet on the @dormlife channel, containing a link to the first episode of the season on MySpace.

    We used Bit.ly to compress the link. The compression is nice, but the real value is in Bit.ly's tracking and analytics capabilities. An hour later, we could see that 20% of those who had received the tweet had clicked through to the video. 48 hours later, 90% had clicked through. 3 days after the tweet went out, clickthroughs on the link had all but died out, but the final result was that 94% of the Dorm Life fans who got the tweet clicked through.

    Since we began interacting with our audience via Twitter, we've found that the show's Twitter community has generated a ratio of views per community member (2:1) that is double the ratio (1:1) the show's Facebook-based community has generated. No doubt there's a lot of overlap between the two, but the point is that for us, Twitter messages are twice as effective in getting fans to check out episodes.

    TV Week's Daisy Whitney mentioned it in a piece yesterday: http://bit.ly/TVwDL
  • dfriedman · 9 months ago
    Presumably all of this is true.

    Facebook needs to do a better job of explaining what it has changed, how everything works, and how these changes will benefit its users than it has done to date. Color me confused.
  • tony · 9 months ago
    you are gettiny way full of yourself tell me something we all don't know
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    I'll try harder next time

    Not every post is a winner
  • humorplus · 9 months ago
    Wow.. great!
    The traffic to this blog from twitter has tripled, I agree too.
  • Wendy Gerraty · 9 months ago
    Really small numbers Fred.
  • headlemur · 9 months ago
    Bzzzt! Sorry Fred, you are wrong on this one.
    Unemployment and Recession are the drivers here.
    Surfing the net is the cheapest entertainment around.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    Then why wouldn't I see similar growth from refers from google, techmeme, hacker news, etc?
  • headlemur · 9 months ago
    You are not the center of the universe :) Seriously, you are measuring the head and the tail of the same thing. It's like evil twins, ya can't have one without the other. As you yourself stated above. Re tweeting is just cross posting in a thong. Good for you as an investor though :)

    I am saying that surfing across the web is up. Somebody can probably make a case for an inverse correlation between the drop in miles driven and rise of time on web, consumer spending drop and rise in time on web, and so on. An example of this would be Amazon's sales numbers vs brick and mortar stores this past holiday season.

    google, techmeme, hacker news, are not your most likely referral engines as they cover entirely too much territory and the chances of a 'slashdot' effect is less likely. slashdot can crash a site, the other guys not so much.

    As far as traffic and exponential growth is concerned, I have to take those numbers with a large bowl of salt. 175 Million Active members? Or 175 Million username passwords issued? AOL played that game for years. See where they are now.
  • fredwilson · 9 months ago
    But google, hacker news, and techmeme have been my top traffic sources for years

    And I know I'm not the center of the universe

    As I stated in the start of this post, I got this insight from looking at the refer logs of the companies we invest in

    I only posted my traffic stats because its the only data I feel comfortable sharing